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Tenacity.

That's not the word I would use.

And ten years from now... ;)

What, out of curiousity, is the topic?

Actually, two topics: How Invictus oaths are nerfed, and how to use titles. I can probably do some searching in my Gmail and find emails that are almost word-for-word what's in these current ones.

The Invictus Oath one, at least, actually spurs from a recent change.

Sure, but the follow-up comments along the lines of "this is another way the Invictus are screwed, they're the weakest covenant, blah blah blah" is vintage 2006.

Oh definitely. No arguments there.

Please....

They get half off on a number of merits. Their advantage saves them XP (like the Carthians), everyone else's costs XP.

Vintage 2006? Are you Michael Cole now?

:P

CLOTHESLINE! CLOTHESLINE! CLOTHESLINE!

Ahhh, up there with the "The Coils cost too much! We should get WW to re-write the costs!" that appear on General OOC and OD-OOC every six months.

Pretty much, yeah.

Its not fair to have to pay so much XP for a power that cannot be countered in any way!

Besides, you shold be able to master the secrets of transcendence one per month if you work really hard at it!

Considering that most PvP consists of getting 5 dedicated combat characters to jump someone else, I don't see why everyone gets so worked up about descrepancies in powers.

My only comment on the thread was that it was something that's going to keep happening. There's precedent.

Such arguments are cyclical. As a several year veteran of the old Mage: The Ascencion Mailing list, anytime some N00B would blunder in and ask..." Um okay. I don't really understand the difference between coincidental magick and Vulgar magick..."

There was usually a mass indrawing of breath as the veterans would run screaming into the night.

It would come around about once every six months or so. It was like seasons. You learned to expect it.

Yeah, same thing happened on the old newsgroup.

It got to the point that I just saved the "audience" explanation as a file and would post it in reply.

See, I might argue that things haven't changed at all, hence your first fallacy.

I... uh... said that?

All I can say.. is this: Imagine being a member of that list for all the intervening years!

Talk about dull.

Oh, I had my share of pain for almost two years. I know how painful it can get.

Can we just create "Cam-Covenant-Nerfed-Bitching" list and sub ALL of them to it? That way they can get into death matches over whose Covenant was nerfed more recently.

Covenant cagematch! Whomever dies first was the most nerfed!

Heh..reminds me of the arguments about 'Castillian' vs. 'Spanish' on the 7th Sea GM lists. I would have signed off earlier..but I couldn't stop my eyes from rolling.